85th Annual Galway Bridge Congress
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Two new games have recently joined our growing family of multi-system daylongs; the SEF and SAYC Daylongs. Here's a quick rundown of the systems on BBO to try your hand at:
Whichever Daylong you try, you'll have up to 24 hours to finish playing a tournament of 8 boards, some are scored using MP and others IMPs. You can register, play at your own pace, leave the table, then resume the game any time during the day without losing your results.
The choice of systems is diversifying - maybe it's time you had a go at something new?
Log in to BBO, click Competitive > All tournaments and type 'daylong' into the search box to find the game you'd like to try.
I enjoy plaing with robots and you can learn a lot from them. When robot bids something that you are thinking is not correct your first bid is wrong !!!
♥ the KEY for better bridge is discipline ... Simple ♥
Could we expect Polish Club in future?
Can we add these 2 lines on top of the robot
if contract is NT
return partner's suit
Bots usually make passive leads against NT. Why should humans do otherwise? ;-})
Can we expect Precision in future?
Would like Precision system as I play that routinely. Mayo not be popular with mainstream, but still a good system.
Hi Joseph,
Thank you for your suggestions; we'll take it into consideration. Hope you're still enjoying playing with the other robot systems that are available. 🙂
I'm very unsatisfied with GIB 2/1 too. GIB bids bad, I'd argue that other than dummy play it's just awful . Could we have better robot, with higher system complexity pls?
Suggesting the biggest improvement of all. Please add the following 2 lines of code on top of the program:
IF CONTRACT = NT
THEN RETURN PARTNER'S SUIT
Here here
I guess the former chairman Bill doesn't wont to supply any means for writing a new bot code to replace the antique one
I'm ALWAYS afraid to DBL (penalty) a bit because my robot 'P' always rebids !
Some games ,my robot partner sabotages my bids (it shouldn't be a self destruct situation)
The robots CHEAT in some cases - (when they play as a pair against you).
However, I appreciate the fact that we can play using the tools given to us AND the robots teach you some hard lessons.
I'm a better player as a result .....
Twice now my robbie bid Stayman without a 4 cd major: that's not in the GIB system notes.
Agreed. Same happened couple of times. Something is Not right with the system
Yes it is. Stayman is used to invite to 2NT, and doesn't require a 4 card major. 1NT-2C/2H-2S shows 4S and an invite, and 1NT-2C/2H-2NT denies 4 cards in either major.
Yes, it is in the system notes:
"2♣ Stayman (promises at least one 4-card major unless inviting 3NT).
"
https://www.bridgebase.com/doc/gib_system_notes.php
I would just wish that the GIBS would draw trumps first more often so they dont fail to get the contract which was there.
Robots don't declare, humans do. Notice that the dummy switches when Robot's bid causes contract to be on its side.
That depends on what kind of tournament you're playing. The robot does declare, for example in the Robot Rewards. (I think the comment what directed towards GiB in general on not just daylongs)
agree with many here...robots need some repairs!
I have no human partner, so I have no choice. From these comments I feel better about some of my low scores.
drop me a line if you want to try pair with people
Before putting in new basic bidding systems, try fixing the ones that are there. And yeah.... Defensive signalling would greatly improve robot defenses, which are awful. And for Christ's sakes, stop telling the robots lo lead singleton Kings and Queens in trump. Just because the double dummy program says it will fall does not mean it will fall in real play
Right on!
Trouble is there hasn’t been ANY upgrade in several years nor is it likely there will be. The present management is interested in taking your money period!! Nothing else matters to them.
Way too many unnecessary, unhelpful, and confusing cue bids from North. Several times, after arriving at what seems to be an appropriate and comfortable 3NT contract, North will then give me a “cue” of 4 clubs, notifying me they hold 4+ clubs and less than 8 HCP. This is useless information! And if I want to get the bid back into NT and bid 4NT the robot takes that as Blackwood in clubs. Now what?
Exactly the same thing happened to me a few days ago. 0% 😠
You bid your own "cue" in an often fulfilled hope N. Bot would b-wood
Agree. Too many and destructive
THIS HAS HAPPENED TO ME MANY TIMES. VERY ANNOYING.
It's too bad the bots can't make signals on defense. That would be a welcome addition.
playing without defensive signals is like
flying with no instruments
If Bridge Baron "robots" can bid fairly accurately based on the detailed convention card you set up for them, why can't BBO robots do the same thing? Having to carefully look at the meaning of a robot bid and then have to select around to find the closest bid you can make to match the meaning you are trying to give the robot is a pain.
What's the difference between ACOL and SAYC?
Is SAYC simpler or more intiitive? Are the bid meanings different? Which is better for a beginner?
Thanks!!
Basically Acol is 4 card majors with weak NT, while SAYC is 5 card majors with strong NT. Both have advantages and disadvantages. What you really need to consider is who you are likely to partner at bridge, and what system that they play, especially if you may play face to face bridge in the future. If you live in the US then SAYC will be a better choice; if in the UK then Acol will be better. In addition local bridge clubs may well provide classes in the popular system where you live.
The robots in the Acol game seem to do fewer strange things (which is a bonus)
robots need to discrinate between a push and an invite. After a suit is agreed, a one level raise should not be an invite unless no intermediate bid is available.
Can you choose the style of play your partner Bot uses in all games, not just daylongs?
i agree robots are usless
Agree - fix the current robots both bidding and defense! Every day there are so many stupid robot bids - bid when they shouldn't, don't bid when they should. It's hard to even play sometimes. I'm not talking about adding a level of expertise, just do something that's normal.
AMEN!!!!
It is not good for bridge to have BBO charge $2.99 for the use of robots. It discourages people to play and practice. Maybe $2.99 for a month, but not a week. And that's the dumber robots!
My question is what do you get by upgrading the robots? Especially if you are playing against all there robots? Your robot is smarter and signals and the other two robots stay robot-stupid, or all are upgraded... I can't find any definition of this upgrade.
Work needs to be done to improve robot’s bidding
I wish there was an app that you key in your convention card and the robot partner helps you practice your own convention card.